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iain Reid's avatar

Sam,

re Mr Lowe's, solar panels, you misunderstand the difference between consumer solar panels and grid connected solar farms, they are a world apart. A Guardian newspaper article is similarly disconnected from reality when they accused Mr Lowe of being hypocritical for using solar panels on his farm. The irony is that the economic argument for domestic or industrial solar panels is only positive due to the very high unit electrical cost due to renewables.

The Contract for Difference price for solar farms is normally higher than the median wholesale market price. They also need the support of conventional generation to feed the grid. Also typically they include a battery system to harvest the capacity market, a very lucrative source of revenue. Essentially solar farms are simply subsidy farms and have very little value.

What I don't think is realised that the core , i.e. old existing, transmission system is capable of carrying about 30% more than it actually carries. The expansion required, as is claimed, is for poorly sited generation sources, which are also very poor generators.

We don't need more pylons or the alternative extremely costly underground cables. We need proper generators to be built, as soon as posible, CCGT in the interim but much more nuclear.

Coal would be ideal, but, realistically that is not going to happen. A grid with zero renewables is what should be the aim.

The day that I find a political party that understands energy in all it's facets would be my Nirvana,

but I don't expect it any time soon.

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Rosie Pearson's avatar

You're relying on an out-of-date report that looks at AC undergrounding. Reform, the Conservatives and the Green Party all want to see HVDC undergrounding in the East of England. It has lower lifetime costs, National Grid says so. The NESO study showed that it was a great alternative to pylons (and it could be built even quicker than they said). Plus note that one can upgrade the existing grid to triple capacity using TS Conductors, part-owned by National Grid and approved for use in the UK. Plus an offshore grid is cheaper and better: three independent reports since 2011 have said so and National Grid was discovered deleting a video saying just that from its website only this month.

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