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Andrew Illius's avatar

I enjoyed much about this article, though note exception below.

It does illustrate the extraordinarily convoluted policy considerations and incentives/disincentives needed to achieve the desired end of lower CO2 emissions. Just what we all need. At the moment, NZ is just making us poorer, and fast.

My real exception is a scientific one, and I wouldn't be a scientist if I wasn't a sceptic: I don't accept 'CO2 control nob theory', nor the model predictions used to send us into the NZ doom-loop. Zilch predictive power. Settled science is a contradiction in terms - there's no such thing. Real science is conjecture and refutation, and there are plenty of reasons to be circumspect, at least, about atmospheric CO2 concentrations inching up from an all-time low.

Given our historical and geopolitical situation, we have one really pressing need: very cheap energy in abundance.

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iain Reid's avatar

Sam,

you say:-

"Past budgets have focused on the relatively straightforward task of decarbonising our grid. Switching from a grid powered mostly by fossil fuels to one powered by zero carbon renewables (with batteries and some nuclear) is a gargantuan task, but it isn’t one that requires the public to radically change their lifestyle."

I think it is evident that statement is wrong, by a large margin.

We cannot run a grid without fossil fuels until it is entirely nuclear, and that too, has it's limitations as it tends not to be flexible enough for the grid.

Renewables will never replace fossil fuel genertaion and this will be evident in the next couple of yeras as Mr Milliband tries to prove otherwise.

Also look at Germany who are equally as deluded.

Don't you think that a severe rise in price doesn't radically affect lifestyle, especially as the price of electrcity negatively affects commmerce and industry so employees will not see a rise, in real terms, of salary and many alreday have seen their industry close.

Likewise the farming community is being attacked and restricted in the name of CO2 nonsense.

My point of view is that both the Climate Change act should be repealed and the climate Change Committee be disbanded as they do not understand technicalities or practicalities and worse believe the agenda that the U.N. is forcing on governments.

That agenda, and it is working, is to de industrialise the west using the trojan horse of CO2.

That is not my opinion but statements from officers of the U.N. Framework for Climate Change.

There is more and more scientific opponents to the idea that the IPCC political section claim that CO2 is the control knob. That statement is fatuous. Even their scientific working parties disagree with the IPCC 'Guidance for policymakers', i.e. soverign governments, and the working parties themselves disagree on some matters. This is how science is.

Basics, the earth is kept warm by the sun and that heat is how we survive. Some of that heat is re radiated back to space and greenhouse gases recieve that heat as infra red radiation, half of which is re radiated to space and half back to earth. We are only in the second stage. That extra heat affects many things and that affect in most cases opposes the rise in temperature.

Physics, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Green house gases in order of effect H2O, by far the most powerful in terms of concentration and the width if infra red spectrum it traps. CO2, Ch4 NO etc are far smaller in volume and trap but a tiny proportion of the IR spectrum.

Antropogenic CO2 is around 4% of the total CO2 emissions annually, the rest is natural.

Is it logical that man can alter climate by reducing the tiny amount of CO2 emissions we generate?

You also make the incorrect claim that weather is getting more severe and more extreme; data shows otherwise. Using insurance figures is illogicall as the insured value has soared with time and inflation, it is not a measure of weather.

Iain Reid

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