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David Turver's avatar

Sam, Sam, Sam. I am not sure whether you are simply unaware of the truth, or trying to wilfully mislead us.

1. LCOE is a nonsense measure as you half indicate. But in recent years costs have been rising and CfD awards and offers are way above, often more than 2X the Government's own calculations. See here:

https://davidturver.substack.com/p/crocodile-jaws-will-crush-net-zero and here:

https://davidturver.substack.com/p/offshore-wind-new-big-lie

The reasons being that material costs have risen, but perhaps more importantly the interest rates have gone up from almost zero a few years ago to around 5% now. This greatly impacts the cost of capital and hence the LCOE of high capex solutions like wind and solar.

2. Existing CfD-funded offshore wind costs us >£150/MWh, onshore £113 and solar £110/MWh. All far more expensive than gas-fired electricity even at today's inflated gas prices and the ETS carbon tax applied. New ones might be cheaper, but of course, they are index-linked so are more expensive when they finally come online. NNG was awarded a contract at £114/MWh in AR1, that will cost us over £158/MWh when the CfD is activated next year.

3. National Grid has called for £112bn of spending on transmission out to 2035. At an 8% cost of capital and 2% operations and maintenance cost, that's £11bn/yr to be added to our bills. A cost that should be added to the cost of renewables.

4. Storage in the form of batteries or green hydrogen just adds further capex to the system without increasing overall output. Factor that into LCOE calculations and the cost of renewables goes through the roof. Last year, the Royal Society said we would need 123TWh (hydrogen) or 68TWh (electrical) storage to manage the inter-annual variations in supply to a grid delivering just 570TWh per year. They got their costings wrong, but even theirs were many hundreds of billions of pounds. Batteries would cost in the trillions.

If we have to decarbonise (a big if), then low density, intermittent, low EROEI wind and solar are the wrong solution. The only sensible approach is a massive investment in nuclear power (with gas in the transition) akin to the French Messmer plan of the 1970's and 1980's. We won't need storage or anywhere as many extra grid lines either. To make that work we need to fix the regulatory barriers to cheap nuclear. We can fix faulty regulations, but mere mortals can never fix the faulty physics of wind and solar.

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Nickrl's avatar

NESO2030 report is subtlety clear that renewables will not be cheaper and is nigh on undeliverable for 2030 maybe 2035 but certainly no earlier. And the worst of this headlong rush is there will be NO decent green jobs in this country all the high value kit will be produced in other countries. What should have happened was a revised strategy to ensure that we built up our own supply chain first before embarking on this goal. Also NESO needs to act like old CEGB and coordinate generation and transmission so we stop the nonesense of this weekend where 110GWh of green leccy was chucked away in favour of domestic gas and imported energy also fossil fuelled.

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